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There are statements all over the internet, that “herbs do not work for feminizing the male body”. This statement is as false as saying people can never fly in the sky with the birds. The statements exist only because so many people have used herbs improperly, and have expected “overnight” transformations from that improper use.

So let’s look at this issue through educated reality: The human body functions because of hundreds of different kinds of hormones, enzymes, etc.  Hormones are the triggers and the catalysts which cause the various cells of the human body to function. Hormones are the “key” which “unlocks” each cell in the human body. Hormones unlock and open each cell to receiving nutrition so that each cell can perform its function, i.e., do its work. The human body will normally try to create all the various enzymes and hormones it can use, all that it needs, all of the time, from the foods we eat.

Herbs – berries and leaves – are food items.

From certain types of herbs, called phyto-estrogens, estrogens will be created to the extent that the individual body can utilize them.

Phyto-estrogens are not to be confused with psuedo-estrogens (now more commonly called Xeno-Estrogens), which are estrogen-like mimics that invade our bodies from various chemical pollutants in our environment.

Although there is much writing on the internet saying that phyto-estrogenic plants only contain tiny amounts of estrogen, it is important to understand the primary Fact that these article overlook:  that as the human body performs its various digestive functions, bio-molecules from these particular plants and berries are modified, converted into  additional estrogen, and other hormones, enzymes, etc.

With herbal source estrogens, the body will create whatever levels of estrogen it can use at any given time, so that it is not possible to overdose in a harmful way.

But an individual has to ingest enough phyto-estrogenic herbs to create enough estrogen to make a difference, on a consistent every-day basis.

Traditional store-bought phyto-estrogenic herbs are not powerful enough – not potent enough — to do the job of feminizing unless they are taken every day in massive quantities. And there is a long and often repeated history of people using store-bought estrogenic herbs without attaining any significant results.
This is because those individuals did not also take anything to suppress testosterone.

It is also important to understand that there are no standards for measuring or comparing herbal things between brands.

One company’s “25mg” herbal product can actually have FAR more of the active ingredients – the “good stuff” – than another company’s “500mg” herbal product. This is especially true when Standardized and Concentrated extracts of herbs are used as ingredients in an herbal-based formulation.

It is simply not possible to compare herbal things from brand to brand in any meaningful way.

Why do our Herbal-Source Hormone formulations work?

Improvements in herbal processing technology have enabled formulators to extract the active ingredients from various herbs – the “good stuff” – so that the benefits of the various herbs can be obtained without having to consume massive quantities of each herb.

Herbal research done in the late 1980s, showed that the active ingredients of various phyto-estrogenic herbs - when mixed in proper ratios – became synergystic; i.e., the total mixture worked better than any of the herbs could have worked on their own.

Evanesce and Feminol are formulations based upon all of that research.

The Standardized extracts of the best available herbs, mixed in appropriate ratios, brings results which are far superior to anything available from store herbs.

These unique formulations are a clear step above traditional herbal usage.
These very unique formulations cannot be duplicated using store herbs, because their herbal ratios are based on using Standardized extracts of the various herbs.

AndroEase, along with CalmCompanion, has the strongest testosterone blockers
that a person can legally get without a prescription, and in addition to those,
Evanesce and Evanesce-Extra Strength (ES) have testosterone blockers in additional to their potent estrogen resources.

Feminol provides a much higher level of estrogen resources; it is a GREAT addition to Evanesce for feminizing the male body.

Evanesce and Feminol are designed to be synergystic with each other, and they work best when taken together.

In addition, many wives and other born-women, have found Evanesce Classic to be extremely beneficial to managing their PMS and/or menopause symptoms.

The hip and buttocks growth, and rounding, that many born women have,
is primarily influenced by their pelvic bone.

The human pelvic bone stays relatively soft throughout childhood.
When women go through puberty, the pelvic bone will tend to spread, grow wider.
And then toward the end of puberty, the pelvic bone will harden.

The purpose of the wider pelvic bone (pelvis) is to help the woman carry a fetus.

For the vast majority of born males, there is generally not enough estrogen available at puberty to cause the pelvic bone to grow wider.
And, toward the end of puberty the pelvic bone in a male-bodied person also will harden.

Once the pelvic bone hardens, for a male or for a female, nothing can be done to make it wider.

Elevated estrogen levels will cause fatty deposits around the pelvic zone, in order to protect it, and to protect a fetus, in case the woman falls.

Not every born woman going through puberty obtains a wider pelvic bone.
All pelvic bones do not grow equally wider.

Pelvic bone growth is governed in part by each woman’s unique personal genetics.
Some born women have the unique personal genetics for a wide pelvic bone,
and some born women do not.

The necessary elements for a feminizing male to get any wider, more rounded hips and buttocks, are:

*  (1)  reduced testosterone levels,

*  (2)  with the missing testosterone molecules immediately replaced by supplemental estrogen,

*  (3) and enough fatty tissue to be available so that elevated estrogen levels can deposit that tissue into place around the pelvic bone.

All of this, plus time. Which means, patience.

Bear in mind, that it takes 3 to 7 years for a born girl to fully develop physically into a woman.
And, she does not have to overcome testosterone and testosterone production first.

Every cell in the human body, every cell that makes up the human body, has a specific function. In order to perform its particular function, each cell must be fed nutrients and water. The nutrients and water enable the cell to perform whatever function that particular cell was designed/created to perform. Once that function is completed, the cell then expels the used up nutrients.

Each cell has a mechanism, a “door”, which will open in order to allow the cell to receive these nutrients and water.

This “door” mechanism on each cell, is controlled by a “lock”, which is called a Receptor Site.

Hormones can be visualized as a key, which must fit into that “lock”, that receptor site, in order to open that door. Some of the door locks, some of the receptor sites, are “master keyed”; they just need some hormone, any hormone, to cause them to open. Other “door locks” — other receptor sites — are specifically keyed to only allow certain specific hormones to open them.

For example, insulin is a hormone which opens the “door locks”, opens a cell via the receptor site, to allow that cell to receive glucose, which is food — nourishment — for the cell. Once the cell is fed, it can perform its intended function. Afterwards, the used up glucose is expelled, and then the hormone is detached from the receptor site, the door is closed and locked once again, and the used up hormone and used up glucose are flushed from the body.

There are three primary “sex” hormones in the body: Women have high levels of estrogen and progesterone, and a small amount of testosterone. Men have high to very high levels of testosterone, and small amounts of estrogen and progesterone.

The human body needs and requires that the levels of these three particular hormones to be within a certain ratio of each other, in order for the body to function properly, and in order to even think properly.

In born-women, PMS and menopause issues and symptoms are caused by the levels of these primary hormones, becoming too far apart in ratio. Which is exactly why born-women, who struggle with PMS and/or menopause, are often/usually given supplemental estrogen, or supplemental progesterone — called Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). This is done to return hormone levels to within proper ratios, so that she can return to functioning “normally”, physically, mentally, and emotionally.

The key purpose of hormone balancing, is to help the individual, male or female, to stop their physical, emotional, and mental suffering.

Hormones in general are the triggers — the catalysts — which enable the cells of  the human body, to function.

As with all hormones, estrogen molecules are carried throughout the body by the blood stream, looking for cells with estrogen receptors – essentially door locks on each cell – as well as for cellular receptors which are “master keyed”, i.e., receptors — cellular locks — which are designed to accept any hormone molecule.
An estrogen molecule can then attach to a cellular receptor, like a key going into a lock.

Once the “key” – the estrogen molecule – has attached itself into the cell’s “lock”,
the cell is “opened” so that it can receive nutrition and perform whatever function that particular cell is supposed to perform.
When that cell has completed its function/cycle, the “key” is ejected,
and that particular used up estrogen molecule is washed out of the body
via the blood, liver and kidney systems.

For feminization – for breast cells to grow and to multiply, etc.,
- what is important is how many estrogen molecules are available at any given time, and how many estrogen receptors are available at any given time for those molecules.
Cells in the breast area are specifically keyed to accept only estrogen molecules.
Most male bodied people do not have enough estrogen to cause their breast cells to ever function, which is why their breasts do not grow.

This is why starting on female hormones at a low intake level/dosage, rarely accomplishes anything.
Low dosage regimens will just not create enough estrogen, and will leave far too much testosterone.
The body simply cannot change in any significant way on a low initial dosage of any female hormone regimen/program.

In order to feminize, it is critical to first substantially reduce testosterone production, in order to force the cells to prefer estrogen.
And then, it is important to immediately replace that amount of testosterone with estrogen,
so that the body is not starved for overall hormone levels.

The quickest breast growth and other feminizing changes come after testosterone levels are significantly reduced – which is accomplished by the use of testosterone blockers - and then as soon as large amounts of supplemental estrogen are present,
cells in the breast area will begin to function and to multiply because their intake “lock” is designed to accept estrogen.

Those breast area cells will multiply in a 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 pattern.  There will never “suddenly” be large breasts, because cells cannot multiply that quickly, even with lethal dosages of estrogen present.

And again, this is why starting slowly, starting on tiny dosages of estrogen, will bring very little or no breast growth, and no other feminization. When very few cells can divide at any given time, there will be little or no growth.

The more estrogen receptors which are available, and the more estrogen molecules which become available after testosterone is no longer overwhelmingly present, the quicker changes will happen.

This is balanced by the fact that overloading the body with estrogen, can and will cause the body to malfunction and to die.

With drug hormones, the body is forced to carry huge amounts of estrogen molecules which may likely never find estrogen receptors… and the good unused estrogen molecules must then be flushed out of the body.
This is in addition to the liver having to extract the estrogen from the drug/pills in the first place.

Forcing the liver to double-process huge amounts of estrogen over an extended period of time can damage the liver and the kidneys irreparably.
This is why usage of drug hormones is supposed to be monitored by a doctor
- and why drugs are prescription items
- to prevent an individual from overdosing and damaging vital organs.

Excessive testosterone levels can even cause born-males to want to be female at times, or fantasize about being feminine some day, then flip-flop to feeling like a born-male “normal” on other days. It’s a swinging pendulum that scrambles the functioning of your brain cells and can make you question your sanity. Just taking more testosterone will not fix this imbalance.

Excessive testosterone levels in your body can cause you to want to become a woman, simply because AS a woman, your body believes it will have the increased estrogen and lower testosterone levels it knows it needs in order to function properly.

So what if you could bring down your testosterone levels, and elevate your estrogen levels, WITHOUT having to actually become a woman and WITHOUT all the potential losses and problems which actually becoming a woman, could cause for you? THAT is part of the specific science behind Evanesce-ES, and the AndroEase plus CalmCompanion products.

We additionally offer Feminol for those people who — after hormone balancing has been achieved — STILL desire to transition into full time permanent women.

Our other products are created to help you to have a more healthy body, overall and to help you to recover from the ravages of the immense stress you have been under while trying to deal with this conundrum.

The products work best when they are used on a consistent, every day basis; whether the individual feels like taking them on a particular day or not. These products need to be used at a reasonable and appropriate dosages, to consistently help you control the hormone imbalance.

The daily usage amount necessary for hormone balancing, is much less than the daily usage amount necessary to feminize the male body.

From a customer:

“My question to you is, what is the magic number of testosterone level we should reach to see the changes we desire.
[...] math, and us engineers, think that way. I know it does not work that way, but I can hope.”

You are trying to use a male-world, engineering-culture solution, to a female-world problem.

I am going to give you a different paradigm to consider, to better understand how to see this whole process:

The paradigm shift you need to embrace here,
is the difference between Father Time — linear, rigid and predictable, i.e., Basic Math
and
Mother Nature — fluid and cyclical; always different. i.e., Calculus

Think of — envision — a glass of water.
Cool, clear, water — filled to the very top of the glass, so that the glass is even slightly overfilled;
where the surface tension of the water allows the actual surface of the water to be slightly over the top of the glass…

Now — I want to add a dye to the water to change the water from clear, into a green color.

From a water dropper, I very gently add a drop of dye, which, because of the surface tension of the existing water,
disperses and runs across the the top of existing water, and runs down the side of the glass.
There is no change to the existing clearness of the fluid in the glass.

In order for any additional dye to have any impact on color of the water,
you have to reduce the amount of water in the glass.

To what level must I reduce the water in the glass, before i can begin to add dye?

That is really the question you are asking,
and that is why there is no appropriate, specific, scientific, valid answer….

The answer is that the level of clear water must be reduced “enough” to prevent the green dye from spilling away.

You can begin adding dye to the water,
in amounts effective enough to begin to change the color of the water,
as soon as the existing/beginning level of the water is reduced “enough” to not reject the dye.

At that point, as you begin to add more and more dye, the glass will once again fill to the top, and once again overflow…
but now by doing so, the clear water will be displaced more and more,
and the dye will continue to further change/deepen the color of the water remaining in the glass.
The changes have begun.

Over time, as more green dye is added, the clear water will be come more and more green;
there is no “line in the sand” to achieve in order for green to “suddenly happen”.

In the paradigm above, the clear water represents testosterone, the green dye represents estrogen.
I suspect you “got” that part already.

And this paradigm also explains why the concept of “starting slowly” with hormones, does not “work”.
When the glass — your body — is filled with testosterone,
a “little bit” of estrogen just “slides off of the top”

The beauty of using our formulations is that once the color of the water begins to really physically change,
the individual can control the rate of change –
i.e., how quickly, and how much, the changes proceed, as well as the amount of total change.

Using drug hormones is like dumping a glass of green water into the glass of clear.
Green AND clear are going to go over the side, quickly;
leaving a mess of excess,
a huge quantity of messy “water” which the liver and kidneys must process,
which these organs were not “designed” to process, and which can damage those organs.

Note also, that if the glass wants to become totally clear again, there is no way to achieve that.
The further the water inthe glass changes changes toward green,
the less potential there is for “totally clear” to ever be approached again.

Note also, that the now green liquid will fade with time — not to clear, of course, just fade.
Some small amount of green dye will need to be added on an ongoing daily basis,
in order to maintain the desired shade
– the rich vivid color — of green which had been obtained.
A “maintenance dosage”, as it were.

This maintenance dosage concept is most easily seen in born-women who have had a hysterectomy;
after that surgery, their bodies no longer create their own “green dye” because of the removal of those parts/organs.

So after that surgery, born-women must use a daily supplemental, small dosage,
of “green dye” to keep their system working properly.
ormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for born women, is that maintenance program.

If the glass of clear water is never touched at all, it will still — over time — evaporate.
Testosterone and testosterone effects reduce as a male ages.

If a person sticks their finger(s) into the glass of water, and displaces some of it,
i.e., spills some water over the side of the glass.
Of course the total remaining in the glass is less.
This is what pure testosterone blockers achieve.

If the total “level of clear water” is reduced too far, the body and mind will begin to malfunction.

So, unless displaced water is going to be replaced by green dye,

Supplemental clear water is very difficult to obtain and to add back into the glass.

The one specific unknown/unknowable variable in this paradigm,
is the initial size of anyone particular glass of water.

Everyone begins with a different size glass of water, in width and/or in depth.

So there is no way to specifically, scientifically,
state how much green dye must be added to begin the displacement process,
nor even to state how many fingers must be inserted, nor how far, into the glass of clear water in order to force “x” amount of displacement.

Final thoughts within this paradigm:
(1) Some small number of people have a glass which is very eager to refill itself with clear water, for some amount of time into the process.
For some people, the clear water refill process in the glass is VERY resilient,
and those clear water refills flush away — dilute — the green dye at a rapid rate.

This becomes personally frustrating to them,
and this can cause them to deny the reality of the rest of the paradigm
“This does not work”.

(2) Some people think that
they can add only tiny bits of blue and yellow water,
and even orange and/or black water, or just add pale green water to the clear water,
over a short period of time.
These people then complain about their inability to achieve a rich vivid color green in the glass.
This is what people who buy random herbs from some store, do;
people who then proclaim that “herbs don’t work to feminize the body”.

There are people on the internet who claim that we are selling colored water.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

We are selling specifically formulated, very vivid rich green dyes:
formulations which have been validated by science and research over the past 20 years.
These formulations, using standardized extracts and concentrated extracts
of the active ingredients of the very most potent herbs
are not like anything else available anywhere on the planet.

We are also selling specific displacement “tools”;
i.e., formulation-based pure testosterone blockers.

I hope this all helps!

Natural products in various forms have been used around the planet for several millenia
for the treatment of pathological conditions or for health benefits, all over the world.

In Europe and America, plant-derived compounds — extracts — are the basis of at least 25% of the existing drugs.

The most well known example of the extraordinary potency in extracts of plants, i.e., herbs, is aspirin.

The effects of aspirin-like substances have been known since the ancient Romans recorded the use of white willow bark as a fever fighter.
In 400 B.C. Hippocrates recommended a tea made from the yellow leaves of the white willow tree.

Through the centiuries, as the characterization of each and all disease became more precise,
one common reoccuring re-discovery was that chewing the bark of the willow tree (salix alba)
alleviated many of the symptoms of various sicknesses (chills and fever).

The early 19th century saw an intense interest in the chemicals that
existed in a variety of plants and herbs — natural products chemistry.

As an example, scientists discovered what was in the bark of the willow tree that relieved pain and reduced fever.
The substance was named salicylic acid.
But when people suffering from pain took just the extract called salicylic acid,
it caused sever stomach and mouth irritation.

In 1832, a thirty-seven-year-old French chemist named Charles Gerhardt synthesized a new substance — acetylsalicylic acid
– from a combination of salicylic acid and acetic anhydride.
The procedure was difficult and took a lot of time.
Gerhardt decided the new compound wasn’t practial, so he set it aside.

Another German chemist, Kolbe, discovered an effective large scale way to synthesize salicylic acid.
Synthetic salicylic acid became a standard treatment for arthritis and gout from 1860 through 1893.
While it was an effective medication, the substance was still irritating to the mouth, throat and stomach

In 1897, a German chemist named Felix Hoffmann, (who was an employee of Bayer A.G. in Germany),
was searching for something to relieve his father’s arthritis.
He studied Gerhardt’s experiments and “rediscovered” the methods of creating acetylsalicylic acid
– or aspirin, as we now know it.’

Unable to get the drug patented, Bayer registered a trade name for the new medicine, Aspirin
After Germany lost World War I, Bayer was forced to give up
the trademarks for Aspirin and for Heroin as part of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

This all is important, because it shows the scientific basis of our products.

Our products are created — formulated –
starting with standardized and concentrated extracts of plants
which are known for their estrogenic qualities.

We then add other plant materials, and other extracts of plants and berries,
based on German research in the 1980s which showed that certain plant material
helps other plant material to be FAR more effectve than either could be on its own; i.e., synergystic.

The result is a formulation which is FAR more potent than anything which might be achieved using store herbs;
in the same way that aspirin is FAR more potent, and FAR more effective
than just using white willow bark for pain relief.

This is molecular potency, not just plant material.

Forget everything you may have ever heard or read about using herbs for feminizing the male body.

This is not just random herbs in a capsule –

This is Evanesce, Evanesce-Extra Strength, and Feminol.

This is traditional male thinking medicine, where “X” quantity of a given substance, taken for “Y” amount of time, will produce “Z” results.

Linear thinking, male thinking.  Rocket science.

Feminization is not rocket science.  Really, not rocket science, at all!

Feminization is the art of female thinking, of female paradigms. Female science is knowing that not every human body works the same way, and that not every human body responds the same way to inputs.

Specifically, in the arena of feminization of the male body, there are many variables which will affect outcomes.

The primary variable is testosterone levels, and the resilience of testosterone production, i.e., the resilience of the testes to want to restart or resume testosterone production.

It does not matter whether someone chooses to take drug-based estrogens, or the Evanesce, Feminol, etc, formulations.

The initial job is testosterone reduction, both current levels and ongoing production.

The individual body has to reduce its testosterone load, in order to have a place for estrogen to circulate and to do “work”.

Some male-bodied people have very low testosterone levels, and testes which will give up very quickly. These people will see very quick initial changes, feminization.

Some male-bodied people have VERY high testosterone levels, and very aggressive testes, which will require very aggressive measure to reduce, before feminization can begin. These people will take longer before seeing initial results.

Another element which governs how quickly and how much feminization happens, is the individual’s overall health, and the individual’s overall nutrition patterns.

As an example, coffee/caffeine, alcohol, sugar, nicotine…. each and all are very destructive of estrogen. Stress is also very destructive of estrogen.

No one has to forego these things totally in order to feminize, but limiting each is very important.

And finally, an understanding that much of breast material is fatty tissue. It is fatty tissue which holds the various ducts, glands, etc., which constitute female breasts.

Does a person have to be “fat” in order to feminize?  No, of course not.

But a person with very little or no body fat, will have a very difficult, very slow period of breast growth.

Note that the majority of female athletes, and especially female weight lifters, Olympic figure skaters, etc., have small breasts, because of this total lack of body fat.

It is also important to know that a born girl, going through puberty toward becoming a woman, will take 4-5 years to fully develop her breasts. And she does not have to overcome testosterone, first.

There is no reason to believe that a male-bodied person will fully develop breasts any faster than that, even when using near-lethal dosages of drug hormones.

All of these variables are the reason we offer such a wide range of feminizing formulations.

Evanesce Classic, and Evanesce-Extra Strength, are estrogenic products, which also contain testosterone blockers/reducers.

Feminol, adds much more potent estrogen resources, in a synergystic formulation; i.e., it is made to work along with Evanesce, to give Evanesce a very significant boost in potency.

AndroEase is THE most potent testosterone blocker a person can legally buy, and it does not bring the health problems that drug products will bring to this task.

CalmCompanion helps the AndroEase to work even better, for the job of blocking testosterone production.

To your question of what to expect in the first six weeks using Evanesce only?

Only your own body, only your own unique personal genetics, can answer that question.

Over the past two decades, many people have fully transitioned using only Evanesce.

And many many more, required a more potent solution, and at least in the beginning, have used all of the formulations in order to jump start the transformation processes.

This is the program we recommend, for starting: (based on twenty years of feedback from other people just like you, all around the planet):

Six Evanesce Classic or Evanesce Extra Strength daily

Four Feminol daily

Two to six  AndroEase daily

Two CalmCompanion daily.

These are to be taken every single day, consistently, without skipping any days.

After six to eight weeks on this regimen, it should become easy to ascertain what the next steps are. Daily usage after that, will be determined by results at that point in the processes.

First results will be very difficult to achieve if a person takes these formulations only on the random days that they are feeling especially “girlie”.

This is all true, even for those people who choose to use lethal dosages of drug hormones; if supplemental estrogen is only taken sporadically, their may be little or no physical changes at all.

Breast growth is caused by elevated estrogen levels.
Breast growth is a combination of fatty tissue and the development of various ducts and glands.

Your body’s hormones, including elevated levels of estrogen, are carried everywhere
your body’s blood system goes; i.e., everywhere.

There is no such thing as estrogen for hips, separate from estrogen for breasts.

The challenge for feminizing, then, is about whether to use drug estrogen or herbal-source estrogen.

And understanding that there are significant health dangers attached to the use of drug estrogens
(or else they would not be prescription items, requiring somewhat frequent doctor checkups
to make certain they are not causing damage to organs such as kidney and liver, etc.)

am I going to have to get HRT estrogen and Spironolactone if I really want the bodyshape? or is this just a patience game?

There is no reason ever, to use spironolactone.
There are many reasons to NOT use it;
it is NOT a feminizing drug, and it can cause much damage to your body,
regardless of the junk “science” about it on the internet TG/TS web sites.
http://myevanesce.com/about-spironolactone/

I started adding a little extra licorice and Black Cohosh on my own with some hot flash herbs from the vitamin shop. just in the last few weeks

You are wasting your money to take these.

For those people reading this article who are unaware,
this discussion is about the herb called licorice, not the candy called licorice.

Too much licorice intake has side effects which include fluid retention, *high blood pressure*, and potassium loss if taken at excessive dosages.
Signs of overdose include: headache, facial puffiness, ankle swelling, weakness, and lethargy.

The licorice ingredient in Feminol is enough to be effective, without causing overdose side effects.
It is a health mistake to add licorice to what you are taking.

You are already getting plenty of Black Cohosh from the Evanesce-ES and the Feminol;
the Black Cohosh component of those formulations is a very potent standardized extract of that herb;
which means you are getting the “good stuff”, the active ingredient molecules of Black Cohosh
instead of just eating crushed leaves and stems.
It is a waste of money and time to add store-bought Black Cohosh to these formulations.

“Hot flash herbs”, which include things like Estroven,
do not have enough estrogen to do anything to feminize the male body.

Because our formulations are created using many standardized extracts and concentrated extracts of various herbs, the most cost effective way to get faster results is to just increase daily intake dosages of Evanesce and Feminol.

Adding other herbs and products, will not make these formulations work any better, and will just be a waste of your money. And, adding other herbs and/or products can upset the synergystic balance ratios of the herbs in the formulations.